Posted by Skellington on March 17, 1998 at 18:03:10:
In Reply to: All read please !!! posted by CogKing on March 17, 1998 at 13:45:01:
go do your wAr3Z stuff somewhere else and stop talking about it on this message board. It is not a matter of LFL Licencing "coming down" on someone, it is a matter of principle...
> -CogKing
There's no spirit of pirating DF anywhere in my post. I'd be the first to argue against the appropriation of property for the intent of defrauding LFL. (SIDE NOTE- If there actually IS anyone in the JK community who DOESN'T own a copy of DF, run out and pick it up...years later, and STILL some of the best architecture in FPS's) The company has prodiuced some of the best games in each genre they've attempted, and it's only fair that they reap whatever financial and esteem rewards are due them for that work. There's no suggestion of ripping off LEC. I'm just talking about doing it from within the level building so people don't HAVE to manually pull the BMs and convert them, then re-gob the whole thing. That's a pain I can't imagine anyone actually looking forward to doing...it's boring, mindless work. If that's an illegal use of DF, then fine, end of story. If it's better to have people extract, convert, and texture the level I'd distribute themselves, then I guess that's a possibility I hadn't considered as it's alot of work to do on a level that's supposedly playable when it's uploaded. There's absolutely no reason to go balistic on me for it, and to launch into this imperious condemnation and equation of my suggestion with Warez pirating. It's no worse than the various medling which has been done to this point, and is perhaps my biggest beef with your last post. Images on web pages, WAV files extracted from the films included in MOTS taunt packs, XvT mission, and addon DF levels..these are all equivalent forms of piracy. The only safe way to stay on the light side of the law is to give up editing LEC's software all together. My other point is just that LEC has been pretty cool about the whole mucking around with their software thing we've all been doing for years now. During DF's reign, there was no specific liscence allowing people to muck about with the program, editing and altering the way the software works. Yet there was no heavy handed response from LEC. Again, we're not talking about any intent to pirate the work of the company, so there's NO DIFFERENCE IN SPIRIT between this proposal and what was being done with the DF=>DUKE3D conversions...perhaps less as in that case it was a violation of 2 companies work, and a copyright violation of the SW liscence to use its' characters and situations from within an unliscened company's game.